Travis Yost: Playoff Corsi% and Conn Smythe Trophies

Leafs fans attack!

Nobody in the Ottawa area will be surprised by Toffoli playing a great 200' game. Put him a shade behind Logan Couture, but not by a lot.

wow, I admire your ability to write articles when there is no news but not like other journalist who just make things up like possible trade destinations and 'things you think you think'

Good one, this graph is actually really cool. Very clear, some of your others I don't understand

Travis Yost: Playoff Corsi% and Conn Smythe Trophies
- Travis Yost

Cool stuff. FWIW, I always go counterclockwise on these graphs.

So how do we plan on acquiring Jake Muzzin?

Subban > Karlsson

Travis Yost: Playoff Corsi% and Conn Smythe Trophies
- Travis Yost

Believe it or not, Keith and Seabrook aren't drawing the toughest assignments, which is why the forward groups in front of them are not as defensive-minded and those numbers look so average.

Subban > Karlsson
- ClarksonDavid

True without question... This year , at least!

True without question... This year , at least!
- Mr_Clean

Id take Karlsson actually

Believe it or not, Keith and Seabrook aren't drawing the toughest assignments, which is why the forward groups in front of them are not as defensive-minded and those numbers look so average.
- Sandus

Hjalmarsson is getting buried, but Keith/Seabrook ain't too far behind. It's Leddy that's really getting the insulation, I guess. But yeah.

Id take Karlsson actually
- ClarksonDavid

So would I, for next year and the long term. But it's close and there'd be a good argument to be made that we ought to prefer subban

So would I, for next year and the long term. But it's close and there'd be a good argument to be made that we ought to prefer subban
- Mr_Clean

one was on a team that got goaltending this year...

one was on a team that got goaltending this year...
- Talkshowhost

I know these things don't count for much in the grand scheme, but Subban just looked so much more inspired than Karlsson this year.

Obviously, the fact that Karlsson still managed to outscore Subban by a pretty substantial margin is telling as to their relative value going forward, but if I had to pick which full season's body of work I'd prefer, I'd be taking Subban's...

Mind you, the fact that he's killed it in the playoffs is a pretty big part of that, which is unfair to Karlsson since obviously that opportunity wasn't available to Karlsson.

Re: conn smythe trophy


99 times out of a hundred it goes to a canadian born player


That is all

Re: conn smythe trophy


99 times out of a hundred it goes to a canadian born player


That is all
- conor_smythe

Except for 5 of the last 6 winners who weren't Canadian.

Once again, you're too good for this website

Except for 5 of the last 6 winners who weren't Canadian.


- LondonSen

Pfft. Facts...

The Sabres offer

Ehrhoff - Stewart - 2nd rd pick

Agree to take back

Neil and Greening.

What else do they get?

Except for 5 of the last 6 winners who weren't Canadian.


- LondonSen

ya, except for those ones

The Sabres offer

Ehrhoff - Stewart - 2nd rd pick

Agree to take back

Neil and Greening.

What else do they get?
- ImThatGuy

hard to say. adding stewart, imo, offsets taking greening. i think ottawa would more want to send quantity than quality.....there wouldn't be any zibanejad, lazar, etc going back.

assuming that neil is close to being worth a 2nd rd pick.....and assuming its buffalo's 2nd we are getting.....i'd probably include 2 good prospects and our 2nd.

prince, pageau, neil, greening, ott 2014 2nd

for

ehrhoff, stewart, buff 2014 2nd

Re: conn smythe trophy


99 times out of a hundred it goes to a canadian born player


That is all
- conor_smythe

You continue to embarrass yourself with utter nonsense.

Except for 5 of the last 6 winners who weren't Canadian.


- LondonSen

And before that there was only 3 people who had ever won it that weren't Canadian (Leetch in '94, Lidstrom in 2002 and Butch Goring way back in 1981).

So, overall Canadians have won it 40/48 times it's been awarded since 1965 (an 83.3% success rate), not quite 99/100, but that is statistically impossible since it's only been awarded 48 times.

Facts...in context.

The Sabres offer

Ehrhoff - Stewart - 2nd rd pick

Agree to take back

Neil and Greening.

What else do they get?
- ImThatGuy

I honestly don't think the Sens have the pieces to make a deal that big. They basically can give up a couple prospects and a second round pick from next years draft, that's about it that we would actually trade.

They have quality, but can't afford to trade any of their quality - except Spezza, which you wouldn't want in a rebuild.

We could add Pageau and one of Prince/Puempel, and then maybe you remove your second round pick and add in ours.

Subban > Karlsson
- ClarksonDavid

I know these things don't count for much in the grand scheme, but Subban just looked so much more inspired than Karlsson this year.

Obviously, the fact that Karlsson still managed to outscore Subban by a pretty substantial margin is telling as to their relative value going forward, but if I had to pick which full season's body of work I'd prefer, I'd be taking Subban's...

Mind you, the fact that he's killed it in the playoffs is a pretty big part of that, which is unfair to Karlsson since obviously that opportunity wasn't available to Karlsson.
- Mr_Clean

Karlsson might not have been at his best, but like you said he still outscored Subban by a fair margin.... sometimes skills speak more than grit or heart.